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Re: Acu-Link Web Bridge to CWOP/APRS

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Recent versions of MeteoBridge have APRS as one of their weather network choices...although it reports via the Internet and not over the air.

I recently obtained an APRS TNC with a bluetooth serial tty interface, with the hope of making MeteoBridge broadcast my weather data via RF.  I'll post details if/when I get it working.....

I know this is a very old post, but I was wondering if this was ever worked out or if someone knows how to make this work with a WS-2000 and ham radio?

I would recommend the following with appropriate cables to control TNC PTT and send packets:

WS-2000 --> GW1000 --> Weather-Display software --> TNC --> 2 meter radio

...then hope that you are within distance of a digipeater. You might want to check that first.



Re: Upgrades? Since Victoria is Listening, What Upgrades Would you Like to See?

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I'd like Access firmware update:

a) Access loses signal from Atlas at least once per day, anywhere between 10 and 30 minutes at the time.
If I unplug network cable and plug it in after light start blinking, most of the times, it immediately finds the signal.
It looks like it goes in some sort of scan mode to find signal after network connectivity is restored.
Would be nice if it did the same after (regular) loss of signal from Atlas.

Unlike the displays, the Access doesn't have a "scan mode".  It really can't "scan" since it has to maintain connectivity with other sensors.

Unplugging the network cable doesn't have anything to do with the 433MHz side, anyway.

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b) Access should always use DNS servers as set by DHCP, instead of being sneaky and querying Google 8.8.4.4 DNS server.
There's no need for that. This should be either removed, and/or disclosed to end user, especially if there's data involved beyond weather.

Nothing sneaky here.  It falls back to the public google DNS servers if it cannot get resolution from the local DNS servers.  That's a very common technique.

Also, if it was ignoring your local DNS, the folks using DNS redirection with solutions like Acuparse wouldn't be able to work.

Re: Upgrades? Since Victoria is Listening, What Upgrades Would you Like to See?

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Unlike the displays, the Access doesn't have a "scan mode".  It really can't "scan" since it has to maintain connectivity with other sensors.
Unplugging the network cable doesn't have anything to do with the 433MHz side, anyway.

Well, whether it has "scan mode" or not, restored ethernet connectivity triggers re-acquisition of Atlas signal 99 percent of the time (under a minute).
If I leave it alone it takes 20 minutes in average. It does "something", whatever that is.

Nothing sneaky here.  It falls back to the public google DNS servers if it cannot get resolution from the local DNS servers.

Fallback is secondary and/or tertiary DNS server. If it can't query first server it should query secondary or tertiary etc, not Google DNS. There's a reason why specifying more than one DNS server is recommended and there's a reason why only specified servers should be used.

That's a very common technique.

Yeah, mostly for IOT devices, which is a result of either lazy programming or desire to circumvent DNS based blocking.

Also, if it was ignoring your local DNS, the folks using DNS redirection with solutions like Acuparse wouldn't be able to work.

It doesn't ignore it, but it also doesn't use all of the specified servers if primary fails, neither it tries over TCP if UDP fails. It goes to Google instead.
If all specified DNS servers fail, it should keep trying those until they are back up, not circumvent it with hardcoded DNS "feature".



Re: Upgrades? Since Victoria is Listening, What Upgrades Would you Like to See?

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Fallback is secondary and/or tertiary DNS server. If it can't query first server it should query secondary or tertiary etc, not Google DNS. There's a reason why specifying more than one DNS server is recommended and there's a reason why only specified servers should be used.

Yes, it's to provide redundancy should a DNS server fail.  Many home networks only end up with one.

There's nothing wrong with providing a fall-back should the local dns be not working or throwing out lame data.

In any case, the primary purpose of the Access is to "phone home".  They want to give it the best chance possible for doing that.

No one is being lazy and I very much doubt the Access is trying to circumvent DNS based blocking.

Things like this are normal in the network world.



Re: Upgrades? Since Victoria is Listening, What Upgrades Would you Like to See?

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Many home networks only end up with one.

Most of the ISPs provide two as required, some provide more than two. Haven't heard of any that provide one.

There's nothing wrong with providing a fall-back should the local dns be not working or throwing out lame data.

There's just about everything wrong with IOT device going beyond the config received by DHCP no matter how well it was intended.


In any case, the primary purpose of the Access is to "phone home".  They want to give it the best chance possible for doing that.

They're doing it the wrong way.



No one is being lazy and I very much doubt the Access is trying to circumvent DNS based blocking.

You're right. It's a step beyond laziness. All these extra and undisclosed "goodies" should be configurable through nice user interface. But they aren't configurable nor are they disclosed to end user.

Things like this are normal in the network world.

No. they were never normal nor are they normal today. In fact, hardcoded crap like that was always considered as one of "Deadly Sins".
They may become more common if people like you are not only accepting it, but also sell it as some added value.

Re: Upgrades? Since Victoria is Listening, What Upgrades Would you Like to See?

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Many home networks only end up with one.

Most of the ISPs provide two as required, some provide more than two. Haven't heard of any that provide one.

There's nothing wrong with providing a fall-back should the local dns be not working or throwing out lame data.

There's just about everything wrong with IOT device going beyond the config received by DHCP no matter how well it was intended.


In any case, the primary purpose of the Access is to "phone home".  They want to give it the best chance possible for doing that.

They're doing it the wrong way.



No one is being lazy and I very much doubt the Access is trying to circumvent DNS based blocking.

You're right. It's a step beyond laziness. All these extra and undisclosed "goodies" should be configurable through nice user interface. But they aren't configurable nor are they disclosed to end user.

Things like this are normal in the network world.

No. they were never normal nor are they normal today. In fact, hardcoded crap like that was always considered as one of "Deadly Sins".
They may become more common if people like you are not only accepting it, but also sell it as some added value.

Guess we live in different worlds, then.

Many IPS provde different IP numbers on the same interface.  Looks like two machines, but it's the same hardware.  There are no guarantees you're going to get two distinct machines.

So, a "hints" file in your mind is "hardcoded"?  Is a host file hardcoded?

If they're "doing in the wrong way" in your opinion, there are a lot of skilled and knowledgeable people doing it.

I'd love to see your "rules" listed out somewhere about things you "can't do".

Yes, there are lots of "goodies" you, as a user, can't configure.  They can be configured by the company, though.  That's normal, too. 

This is a silly argument.  Having a known working backup in your pocket is perfectly fine.

 

 

Re: Upgrades? Since Victoria is Listening, What Upgrades Would you Like to See?

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Many IPS provde different IP numbers on the same interface.  Looks like two machines, but it's the same hardware.  There are no guarantees you're going to get two distinct machines.

It can go other way too and most of the times it does. Like multiple machines behind load balancer ie single IP. It's not up to AcuRite to determine redunduncy of my DNS setup. None of their business, especially when they were not asked for.

So, a "hints" file in your mind is "hardcoded"?  Is a host file hardcoded?

Splitting the hair much? From end user point of view, if it isn't configurable, yes.

If they're "doing in the wrong way" in your opinion, there are a lot of skilled and knowledgeable people doing it.

I'd love to see your "rules" listed out somewhere about things you "can't do".


"DHCP must allow local system administrators control over configuration parameters where desired; e.g., local system administrators should be able to enforce local policies"


That applies for both, host and client.

BTW, this aren't my rules, all this comes from Internet Engineering Task Force and their RFCs.
https://www.ietf.org/standards/rfcs/

Acurate shouldn't just willy-nilly change DHCP supplied configuration and go against network administrators.

Yes, there are lots of "goodies" you, as a user, can't configure.  They can be configured by the company, though.  That's normal, too.

It is NOT normal to go against RFCs.

This is a silly argument.  Having a known working backup in your pocket is perfectly fine.

BS. User should decide whether to use such forced feature or not, especially if that feature goes against common practice and against RFCs.
Until such feature is user configurable, Access is a rouge IOT device.

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Are you on AcuRate payroll, or do you receive any benefits from them? You sure do jump to their defense at any given opportunity...

Re: Upgrades? Since Victoria is Listening, What Upgrades Would you Like to See?

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Many IPS provde different IP numbers on the same interface.  Looks like two machines, but it's the same hardware.  There are no guarantees you're going to get two distinct machines.

It can go other way too and most of the times it does. Like multiple machines behind load balancer ie single IP. It's not up to AcuRite to determine redunduncy of my DNS setup. None of their business, especially when they were not asked for.

So, a "hints" file in your mind is "hardcoded"?  Is a host file hardcoded?

Splitting the hair much? From end user point of view, if it isn't configurable, yes.

DHCP can't enforce anything as it can always be overridden locally.

If they're "doing in the wrong way" in your opinion, there are a lot of skilled and knowledgeable people doing it.

I'd love to see your "rules" listed out somewhere about things you "can't do".


"DHCP must allow local system administrators control over configuration parameters where desired; e.g., local system administrators should be able to enforce local policies"


That applies for both, host and client.

BTW, this aren't my rules, all this comes from Internet Engineering Task Force and their RFCs.
https://www.ietf.org/standards/rfcs/

Acurate shouldn't just willy-nilly change DHCP supplied configuration and go against network administrators.

Yes, there are lots of "goodies" you, as a user, can't configure.  They can be configured by the company, though.  That's normal, too.

It is NOT normal to go against RFCs.

This is a silly argument.  Having a known working backup in your pocket is perfectly fine.

BS. User should decide whether to use such forced feature or not, especially if that feature goes against common practice and against RFCs.
Until such feature is user configurable, Access is a rouge IOT device.

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Are you on AcuRate payroll, or do you receive any benefits from them? You sure do jump to their defense at any given opportunity...

No.  I've been doing network and product development for decades.  I just know my stuff.

DHCP can't enforce anything.  It can always be over-ridden locally.  For example: nsswitch.conf (or equivalent).

Again, nothing technically rogue here.

Re: Upgrades? Since Victoria is Listening, What Upgrades Would you Like to See?

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No.

You paid for all the stuff AcuRite sent you?


I've been doing network and product development for decades.  I just know my stuff.

Somehow you've missed the part about Internet Standards...

DHCP can't enforce anything.  It can always be over-ridden locally.  For example: nsswitch.conf (or equivalent).

Obviously you don't know the difference between DHCP and "Manual Settings" and how they relate to each other. Also, you have to consider the meaning of "Local System Administrator".

AcuRite is NOT local system administrator on my network, therefore Access has to accept my configuration via DHCP or allow manual network configuration via interface or both.



Again, nothing technically rogue here.

Technically, it is, since it partially or fully overrides network settings.
(Partially overrides DNS server list. Fully overrides NTP server list - there's probably more)

Re: Upgrades? Since Victoria is Listening, What Upgrades Would you Like to See?

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No.

You paid for all the stuff AcuRite sent you?


I've been doing network and product development for decades.  I just know my stuff.

Somehow you've missed the part about Internet Standards...

DHCP can't enforce anything.  It can always be over-ridden locally.  For example: nsswitch.conf (or equivalent).

Obviously you don't know the difference between DHCP and "Manual Settings" and how they relate to each other. Also, you have to consider the meaning of "Local System Administrator".

AcuRite is NOT local system administrator on my network, therefore Access has to accept my configuration via DHCP or allow manual network configuration via interface or both.



Again, nothing technically rogue here.

Technically, it is, since it partially or fully overrides network settings.
(Partially overrides DNS server list. Fully overrides NTP server list - there's probably more)

If you want to enforce what outside name servers are accessed from your network, you need to do that at your firewall.

DHCP is not a network cop.  Nothing is forced to use it.

Re: Upgrades? Since Victoria is Listening, What Upgrades Would you Like to See?

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If you want to enforce what outside name servers are accessed from your network, you need to do that at your firewall.

One of the most interesting firewall rules that I have on the firewall cluster at work (10,000+ devices) is for outgoing DNS connections that are not originating from our in-house DNS cache servers.  Most cases to date have been malware/spyware with hard-coded DNS servers in it, trying to get around our DNS logging and suspicious site/host filters.

As for my home network, let's just say that I'm going to shut my pi-hole now.....  :lol:

Re: Upgrades? Since Victoria is Listening, What Upgrades Would you Like to See?

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If you want to enforce what outside name servers are accessed from your network, you need to do that at your firewall.

Yeah, you're right. Got to do that for rouge devices like Access. For everything else, you just configure network client either through DHCP or manual config. Easy peasy...


DHCP is not a network cop.  Nothing is forced to use it.

 [tup] unless...

DHCP is the only way to configure network client, like when manual configuration interface is missing.


Anyway, I'm out of this meaningless conversation. Have a good one!

Re: Upgrades? Since Victoria is Listening, What Upgrades Would you Like to See?

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If you want to enforce what outside name servers are accessed from your network, you need to do that at your firewall.

Yeah, you're right. Got to do that for rouge devices like Access. For everything else, you just configure network client either through DHCP or manual config. Easy peasy...


DHCP is not a network cop.  Nothing is forced to use it.

 [tup] unless...

DHCP is the only way to configure network client, like when manual configuration interface is missing.


Anyway, I'm out of this meaningless conversation. Have a good one!

Yep.  It sure was meaningless.

Re: Atlas Touchscreen customization

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I love the display, but the lack of displaying "today's rainfall" is it's biggest downfall. Here in Florida with our sandy soil today's rainfall is a critical factor and what happened several days ago is much less important. 

The sensor board failed on my 10 year old Davis Vantage Pro 2, and I decided to "upgrade" to a system with a nicer display rather than sinking $50 into the old system. While ugly by today's standards that old green and black lcd Davis display gives me exactly the information I need in an easy to read format.

I also have problems with the UV reading being too low. To their credit Acurite did send me a new sensor / rainbucket assembly, but that didn't solve the problem and they didn't offer any more help on that defect. So thanks to Amazon's return policy the Acurite Atlas is going back and I'll wait until they either choose to display today's rainfall or another manufacturer puts out a system that meets my needs. I looked at the Ambient WS-2000 as a possible alternative, but the small fonts might be an issue.

Re: Atlas Touchscreen customization

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I love the display, but the lack of displaying "today's rainfall" is it's biggest downfall. Here in Florida with our sandy soil today's rainfall is a critical factor and what happened several days ago is much less important. 

The sensor board failed on my 10 year old Davis Vantage Pro 2, and I decided to "upgrade" to a system with a nicer display rather than sinking $50 into the old system. While ugly by today's standards that old green and black lcd Davis display gives me exactly the information I need in an easy to read format.


I'm in exactly the same boat.   My Vantage Pro was dying so I went with the more modern Atlas station.
What I miss most is the "current storm" choice we had with the Davis.  It would give you the running rainfall total of the current storm event, no matter if 'midnight' occured in the middle of the rainfall or if the storm lasted 3 days.    That and the lack of a 'dew point' reading when the temperature is above 80.

Re: Atlas Touchscreen customization

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What I miss most is the "current storm" choice we had with the Davis.  It would give you the running rainfall total of the current storm event, no matter if 'midnight' occured in the middle of the rainfall or if the storm lasted 3 days.    That and the lack of a 'dew point' reading when the temperature is above 80.

Ambient/Ecowitt has this. They call it Rain Event. That is not to say it's a perfect station. They all have their faults in some way.
https://ambientweather.net/help/rain-increment-definitions/

Re: Atlas Touchscreen customization

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What I miss most is the "current storm" choice we had with the Davis.  It would give you the running rainfall total of the current storm event, no matter if 'midnight' occured in the middle of the rainfall or if the storm lasted 3 days.    That and the lack of a 'dew point' reading when the temperature is above 80.

Ambient/Ecowitt has this. They call it Rain Event. That is not to say it's a perfect station. They all have their faults in some way.
https://ambientweather.net/help/rain-increment-definitions/

Yes it does and the only thing preventing me from swapping the Atlas out to the ambient 2000 is that critical information like that and humidity is displayed in the afterthought small font sections where the Davis display shows it prominently in easy to read at a glance large fonts.

While I don't have experience with the Ambient outdoor monitoring station it looks more cheaply made and I question its durability. My Davis is 10 years old and this sensor board failure is the first problem I've had.

Re: Atlas ' UV sensörü 6'ya kadar mı? Neden

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This is not a very realistic test, but I got a reading of 15 UV by holding a 1000 lumen LED flashlight right up against the sensor cover. 

Lux maxed out at 163K.

[163K Lux, 15 UV]
CHANNEL:00 SEQ:0 DEVICE:0553 TYPE:27 SPEED:00000000 UV:15 LUX:11111111111111 0100110 0000000 CHK:7a
CHANNEL:00 SEQ:1 DEVICE:0553 TYPE:27 SPEED:00000000 UV:15 LUX:11111111111111 0100110 0000000 CHK:76
CHANNEL:00 SEQ:2 DEVICE:0553 TYPE:27 SPEED:00000000 UV:15 LUX:11111111111111 0100110 0000000 CHK:72

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